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I'm training for a 100K bike ride in April, so I'm going out on long hilly rides on the weekends. The weather has been delightfully sunny and warm (if a bit odd for January), and they've mostly been great rides.

However, people seem to assume they need to cheer me on. Maybe because I'm a woman, or because I'm not skinny, or because I climb hills slowly, but I do get there.

Half way up Spruce St., a woman waiting to pull out from a side street in her car gives me two big thumbs up as I approached. I smiled and kept biking. That would have been fine. But she rolls down the window and says, "You can do it!" I said, "This is only the thousandth time I've climbed this hill." She was smiling and nodding, and then her face fell as I said "thousandth," probably because she was assuming I would say, "first." Maybe she won't make as many assumptions next time.

Then, getting close to the top, a couple of guys pass me on mountain bikes and one of them says, "Good job!" I said, "You too!" After all, we had both climbed the same hill to the same point. He looked surprised, because young men get to congratulate middle-aged women, but not the other way around.

Yesterday I biked up the hill, down the far side, and then back up. At the corner of Grizzly Peak and Claremont (the beginning of the steep fast descent out of the hills), there is often a Mexican produce stand, and I like to stop there for fruit, even if it tends to end up bruised on the ride down. This time I bought pistachios and mandarins, and they did better on the descent.

When I rode up, there was an older white dude arguing about his total in Spanish with the young Mexican woman staffing the stand. They started over counting it all up and it turns out she was right (surprising me not at all). He said something about buying fruit for his friend with the nasty flu, and I said I was keeping my distance then. He said, "I didn't touch him or anything."

He had been over on the seller's side of the table, and now he came around and said, "Nice bike." I thanked him and answered his questions about it. At this point he's touching the handlebars and standing quite close to me, blocking my way forward. I paid the seller and said, "Excuse me please." He said, "Why do you have to be so rude?" I said, "I need to go home." He said, "You're being rude!" I sighed and backed up the bike to get out of there. He said, "Why do you have to be so American?" as I rode away.

Reminds me of the time a guy on a bike stopped me to ask for directions on a dark rainy night in Portland. I'm generally willing to help, but it was a wide, empty street and he stood too close and blocked my way, at which point I similarly said, "Excuse me" and biked around him. He called after me, "Don't go! I need help!" Which he may have, but he wasn't going to get it with threatening body language. He had a European-sounding accent and maybe it was ignorance of American personal space, but I wasn't going to ignore my spidey-sense to find out.

This dude at the fruit stand spoke unaccented English, so I don't know if he's from somewhere with less personal space, but I don't think I was the one being rude. I guess wherever he's from, he gets to touch other people's (women's) stuff and take up as much time as he wants.

Date: 2026-01-17 03:36 pm (UTC)
threemeninaboat: (Default)
From: [personal profile] threemeninaboat
Men demand women's space and time. It sucks.

Date: 2026-01-17 04:01 pm (UTC)
irimiko: (Default)
From: [personal profile] irimiko
How frivolous we humans can be about other people!

Date: 2026-01-17 04:26 pm (UTC)
irimiko: (Default)
From: [personal profile] irimiko
To be honest, that was half a joke, half for real: we sometimes carelessly treat others, without proper attention and respect.

Date: 2026-01-17 06:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] irimiko
So do I.

Hello, thanks)

Date: 2026-01-19 07:02 am (UTC)
silveradept: A kodama with a trombone. The trombone is playing music, even though it is held in a rest position (Default)
From: [personal profile] silveradept
There are certainly plenty of segments of the population that assume women (or assumed women) are only present at the pleasure of the men around, and that it's very rude for a woman to do anything without the leave of the man to do it. Or similarly rude not to be interested (or pretend to be interested) in the man and what the man has to say.

Fie on them.
Edited Date: 2026-01-19 07:02 am (UTC)

Oh the assumptionists

Date: 2026-01-20 12:36 am (UTC)
jesse_the_k: White woman riding black Quantum 4400 powerchair off the right edge, chased by the word "powertool" (JK 56 powertool)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k

flourish in so many places.

I've been swimming at my pool for 35 years. At least once a month, someone will kvell about "how inspiring you are."

Oh please.

I usually reply "both of us! You made it here" (or 'you made it through' if they're leaving).

Buried the lede though: 100k ride sounds awesome! Is it a car-free experience? Ocean views?

Re: Oh the assumptionists

Date: 2026-01-23 10:03 pm (UTC)
jesse_the_k: Alana of Staples/Vaughn SAGA comic (alanna amazed)
From: [personal profile] jesse_the_k

Oh what a delightful ride!

(Lemon drop man brings back echoes of 1970s when [at least here in MSN] people were enthusiastically advocating for riding as sport as well as transportation.)

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